Deer samples head to two labs
Photos help hunters ID bucks that frequent 4-posters
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Two deer were culled this weekend and samples of each were sent both to Cornell University and to an independent laboratory where they will be tested for the presence of permethrin.
The dual-track testing comes after Bill Smith and other residents criticized a prior sampling by Cornell and the New York Department of Environmental Conservation that showed no permethrin on the hides, neck meat and livers of two does taken in late September. This time, Cornell scientists have high confidence that the recently culled deer fed at 4-poster stations were treated with permethrin within a day or two of being shot. And to appease the critics, samples of each deer have been sent to an independent laboratory in Louisiana.
The first deer, a buck about one-and-a-half years old, was taken by shotgun on Friday evening. On Saturday morning, a hunter's arrow took down a second deer, a stocky buck over two years old. Susan Walker and Nate Shampine, the Cornell scientists conducting the state-permitted program to test the efficacy and impacts of 4-posters that treat deer with a permethrin tickicide, provided hunters with photo albums of deer that regularly feed at some of the Islands 60 4-poster stations. The hunters identified the bucks from the photos before firing. The Cornell scientists and Island veterinarian Bill Zitek along with Councilman Glenn Waddington were on standby and got the call at about 7 p.m. Friday to meet at the Menantic Road entrance to the town Recycling Center. There the first deer was weighed and sampled. The process was repeated with the second deer on Saturday morning with the Reporter on hand.
“Susan and Nate have been great” about the additional testing, Mr. Waddington said as the scientists removed the buck's liver. If permethrin has entered the deer's bloodstream, either through ingestion or transdermally, it would likely collect in the liver. Examination of the eviscerated deer included opening the stomach — whole kernel corn was easy to see.
Dr. Zitek and Mr. Shampine held down a paper frame to delineate the area of the neck hide that Ms. Walker would swab. “This is where the rollers are rubbing the most,” Mr. Shampine said. The neck skin was then incised and pulled back to sample the muscle tissue beneath; Ms. Walker used a new scalpel and gloves after cutting through the deer skin to avoid any cross contamination between hide and meat. Testing of the skin is not required by the DEC but Ms. Walker saved the hide anyway. She explained that the DEC is most concerned about hunter contact with permethrin on the outer hide or by consuming venison. But permethrin may be present within the deer skin, the chemical working much like the insecticides placed by droppers on pets, which spread throughout the skin from one spot.
Three samples of the liver and meat (from both sides of the neck) were packaged for testing from each deer; one set of samples along with hide swabs went to Cornell's Animal Health Diagnostic Center (AHDC) in Ithaca, one to the Central Analytical Laboratories of Eurofins Scientific Incorporated, an international food safety and environmental/agricultural testing company, located in Metairie, Louisiana; the third set was frozen by Dr. Zitek as a back up.
Both deer were dressed by the hunters who shot them and will be consumed. The names of the hunters and culling locations were not released.
Both deer also had some ticks on them. Ms. Walker said that it is too early in the three-year testing program to use the presence of ticks on deer as an indicator of 4-poster efficacy. “We don't expect to see meaningful results this soon,” she said.
But the additional laboratory results are welcomed by the scientists and may put Islanders at ease about eating venison offered by the town. The new sample results “will solidify what we have already done,” Mr. Shampine said.
The September sampling, conducted by the DEC and Cornell, involved three full-grown does that the scientists could not “definitively” identify from 4-poster photos and observations, Ms. Walker said. “We need a unique identifier” to confirm that the deer used a 4-poster prior to being culled. Although neither of the bucks taken last weekend had tags or radio collars they did have distinguishing markings and racks that matched one or more recent photos of deer feeding at a 4-poster. The photo evidence “is actually better than the radio collar” tracking, Mr. Shampine commented; the presence of ingested corn further indicates recent use of 4-posters. Deer feeding at the 4-posters 24 to 48 hours prior to the hunting events would have come into contact with a fresh dose of permethrin — the tickicide was recharged onto all 4-poster rollers by Premiere Pest Control on either Wednesday or Thursday, Ms. Walker said.
The analytical results from sample testing are expected in the next two weeks.
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Killed not "taken" : 6/2/2009
Lets rewrite that over again The first deer, a sentient buck capable of pain and suffering about one-and-a-half years old, was KILLED by shotgun on Friday evening. On Saturday morning, a KILLERS arrow KILLED a second sentient animals , a stocky but a beautiful buck over two years old. Susan Walker and Nate Shampine, the Cornell scientists conducting the state-permitted program to test the efficacy and impacts of 4-posters that treat deer with a permethrin tickicide, provided hunters with photo albums of deer that regularly feed at some of the Islands 60 4-poster stations. The KILLERS identified the bucks from the photos before firing. The Cornell scientists and Island veterinarian Bill Zitek along with Councilman Glenn Waddington were on standby and got the call at about 7 p.m. Friday to meet at the Menantic Road entrance to the town Recycling Center. There the first deer was weighed and sampled. The process was repeated with the second deer on Saturday morning with the Reporter on hand. Both deer were dressed by the hunters who shot them and will be consumed. The names of the hunters and culling locations were not released. IT WILL NOT BE "CONSUMED" LIAR, YOU DUMP IT TO THE PANTRIES JUST LIKE THEY ALL DO BECAUSE MALE DEER MEAT IS NOT GOOD. TELL ME YOU ARE THAT DESPERATE TO BE EATING A DEER CARCASS THAT CAN HAVE PESTICIDES! LIAR. ITS NOT "TAKEN" NOR "HARVESTED" THESE ANIMALS WERE KILLED. IF YOU "HARVEST" THEN IT BE POTATOES AND IF YOU "TAKEN" THEN YOU TOOK PHOTOGRAPH OF A LIVING CREATURE. STOP THE EUPHEMISTIC WORDS!
Veterinarian prespective on bowhunting : 6/1/2009
According to Steve Nusbaum MA, DVM, if the damage to the vital area is less than severe, and if an arrow nicks an auricle rather than cuts through both ventricles, the blessing of shock-induced analgesia (a deadening or absence of the sense of pain without loss of consciousness) to set in can take a long time. Consider the physiology of the deer who dies by suffocation, choking on its own blood, or the deer who dies after an arrow penetrates the diaphragm. The presence of a highly sophisticated nervous system in deer certainly suggests that their nervous systems perform the same functions as human nervous systems. The presence of the same neurochemicals in deer as in humans similarly shows that they feel pain as we do. 7 In recent years there has been a major shift in the way the scientific community understands the mental life of animals, particularly mammals. Presently, researchers in a variety of animal-related disciplines generally agree that in addition to being sentient, mammals are consciously aware and have feelings and emotions; even though they are more rudimentary than those of humans. Mammals, including deer, are presently understood by scientists to have the capacity to think. Numerous studies indicate that the mental harm that is done to an animal placed in a stressful situation may be more injurious than that done to a person in a similar situation because the animal’s mind, in varying degrees, focuses more on the immediate than the distant. Thus, an animal, unlike a person, is less aware that the present anxiety it is experiencing may be temporary. Not only does bowhunting cause real physical pain and suffering, the deer’s mental suffering is just as real, and in its own way, may be just as painful.
Wildlife killers : 6/1/2009
I will expose shelter Island and north haven as the Island that loves to kill deer. Start the deer on birth control and stop killing the deer, its heartbreaking each deer killing season to know they are going to suffer and I DON'T WANT TO FIND AN ARROW IN MY BACK YARD LIKE I DID LAST YEAR OR I WILL START PUTTING IT ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD SPLATTERED IN FAKE BLOOD AND CALL SHELTER ISLAND AND NORTH HAVEN A KILLER OF INNOCENT WILDLIFE.
WHY DID YOU KILL OUR BUCK DEER? : 6/1/2009
the two buck deer that never came back you killed them and they were beautiful animals. I hope those who kill them will receive horrible karma and their death will long and linger to suffer for eternity. Reading this broke my heart because by the description I know which deer is was and they took the deer for the antler. SCUM OF THE EARTH AND I HOPE SHELTER ISLAND AND NORTH HAVEN WILL STOP KILLING DEER. !







